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does it show how the nsa broke into google? >> yes. think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. and what apparently it did is the fiberoptic connections between those big super data centers, they tapped into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. and that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world. but it's particularly disturbing that it's done with google because google is unique. it's the only entity in the world that has a mission to collect all the world's information. that's public and private information. so it's a unique pressure trove. the nsa is only collecting information about people that they think are a threat to the united states and to others. google has a mission to collect all information. >> so the nsa flatly denies tapping into any private google or yahoo user information. >>> next, i'll explain what this is. [ male announcer ] at humana, understanding what makes you different is what makes us different. w
does it show how the nsa broke into google? >> yes. think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. and what apparently it did is the fiberoptic connections between those big super data centers, they tapped into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. and that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world. but it's particularly disturbing that it's done with google because google is...
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worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet on afghanistan and meet on drone use and meet on surelts. you saw dick cheney surveillance. they are still in the republican establishment a strong defense whatever the. in sa is doing. in the end it will be interesting to see whether or not the new coalition is the majority. >> charles, has any of this, as it's come out and steve is quite right because the initial headlines sometimes isn't backed up by what we find out, has any of it changed your mind about edward snowden and whether or not he is a whistle blower or somewhere on the spectrum to t
worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet...
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about what nsa does with america's communication. and president obama has repeatedly mislead the public by claiming that the nsa does not invade the content of our communications when in fact without warrants the nsa is frequently monitoring the communication of american citizens. >> not everyone sees it this way. joining me now from los angeles, fox news contributor, rick grenell the former spokesman to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. rick, thanks for joining us. i interviewed glen greenwald. the reason we brought him on cashing in which i'm going to air it tomorrow morning on the fox news channel. the reason why i brought him on is because president obama promised the nsa was not going to look into private emails of americans. this week the "the washington post" reports that that likely happened when the nsa infiltrated google and yahoo and allowed them to have access to email accounts. now, the question is, do you think that's right? is that fair? should he be looking at americans' emails? >> well, i think the policy is that they
about what nsa does with america's communication. and president obama has repeatedly mislead the public by claiming that the nsa does not invade the content of our communications when in fact without warrants the nsa is frequently monitoring the communication of american citizens. >> not everyone sees it this way. joining me now from los angeles, fox news contributor, rick grenell the former spokesman to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. rick, thanks for joining us. i interviewed glen...
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the nsa chief issued a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: a written statement from nsa to cnn, the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons data from this type of collection is not true. but the nsa did not deny it access links between the service or reaction from google and yeah yahoo! was swift and angry. we have long been concerned about the possibility which is why we continue to extend encryption against more and more services and links. yahoo! said we have not given access to the nsa nor any other government agency. two european delegations upset at nsa surveillance in their countries met face-to-face with the white house and nsa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. so, i ask them, does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >> if we want to get to the truth of why there was mass surveillance a set of allegations that talks about mass surveillance of our citizens. >> by ame
the nsa chief issued a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: a written statement from nsa to cnn, the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons data from this type of collection is not true. but the nsa did not deny it access links between the service or reaction from google and yeah yahoo! was swift and angry. we have long been concerned about the possibility which is why we continue to...
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does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will sticking with barneys hurt his brand as a rapper? the truth is probably not. he and his wife beyonce have had a stream of other income. jay z is worth $500 million. and when you add that to his wife, they have well over a billion dollars. which brings me to tonight's number. 3.6 million. according to the luxury institute. that is the average worth of a barney's shopper. they are incredibly wealthy. and even though he may not like probably not a boycott strong enough for him to change. >>> is the site of the winter games too dangerous? >>> and new details in the case of a bo
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the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is breaking into americans acounts, they shouldn't be doing that. >> so tell us about -- tell us about this drawing that was leaked alodge with some other edward snowden documents. does it show how the nsa broke into google. >> >> yes, think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. what apparently, it did, the fiberoptic connections, they tabbed into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world.
the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is...
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in fact, your aument that basically from the website to nsa, he's like, i don't know what's going on. >> that doesn't wear on the american people longer term. doesn't provide a lot of confidence. >> we're still stuck on this idea he didn't know what the nsa was doing. but we know better. we have intelligence officials who are saying not only did he know, but he approved this sort of stuff. >> i just want to clarify that my point is a different one. we have ratings agencies also saying that the american economy is undermined by the dysfunction in washington. i'm not calling on the president to be a better leader. i think that is a silly and simplistic notion. i am pointing out the fact that you have a group in congress that have decided they don't care if they hold the country hostage, they don't care if they hold the economy hostage, they don't care if they blow up their own party, they will do whatever they can to undermine the president. >> you also have -- guys, you also have -- >> you're absolutely right that the right has decided whoever is president, whoever is democratic presid
in fact, your aument that basically from the website to nsa, he's like, i don't know what's going on. >> that doesn't wear on the american people longer term. doesn't provide a lot of confidence. >> we're still stuck on this idea he didn't know what the nsa was doing. but we know better. we have intelligence officials who are saying not only did he know, but he approved this sort of stuff. >> i just want to clarify that my point is a different one. we have ratings agencies...
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the nsa scandal, is there anyone out there we are not spying on? >> we do not spy on anyone except for valid for chris's. -- purposes. we only work within the law. >> cutbacks of food stamps. >> after these cuts, the average benefit per person will be $1.40 per meal. >> if you are looking for good news, try boston. >> this is for you, boston. [applause] >> you guys deserve it. >> the greatest place on earth. >> president obama said it over and over. if you like your insurance plan you could keep it. the health care act will not change that. it turns out that millions of americans who are buying limited coverage are receiving letters after all. the president's response. >> if you're getting one of these letters, shop around in the new marketplace. you will get a better deal. >> the law requires that health insurance now covers hospital, maternity, mental health, and prescription drugs. >> if insurers decide it is a downgrade we said under the law you have to replace them with quality, comprehensive coverage. >> why not tell that to the american peop
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the fact is the united states has done so much through the nsa to save lives in germany. we've done much more for germany through the nsa than the german army has done for itself since world war ii. that is part of the real world we live in. martha: that is a great point this goes to the picture of the relationship. could you imagine a scenario where the president might have been able to pick up the phone and talk with her and explain what was going on, maybe do a personal apology and the whole thing doesn't blow up into a situation where you have german intelligence officials coming over here for a scolding. >> again by all accounts he does not have those types of personal relationships previous presidents have had. frankly he doesn't have the close personal relationships on capitol hill. i think he feels he doesn't need them. he has more of a academic approach to policy the fact when he comes down to it human nature is human nature. personal relationships do mean something. obviously each country in the end has to do for itself and personal relationships and trust means
the fact is the united states has done so much through the nsa to save lives in germany. we've done much more for germany through the nsa than the german army has done for itself since world war ii. that is part of the real world we live in. martha: that is a great point this goes to the picture of the relationship. could you imagine a scenario where the president might have been able to pick up the phone and talk with her and explain what was going on, maybe do a personal apology and the whole...
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allies because the nsa was spying on them. something the white house says president obama did not know about. aides say he's considering a ban on eavesdropping on allies. today there is a hearing on something else but clapper spoke about the broader surveillance program. >> what we do not is spy unlawfully on americans or spy indiscriminately on citizens of any country. we only spy for valid intelligence purposes with multiple layers of oversight to ensure we don't abuse our authorities. >> of the two the medical story or spying one, which will have a longer effect and why? we put that to howard fineman from the huffingupon post media group. i did want to put an explainer on the health care piece of this so people understand what's going on here. the reason that we have the minimum standards for obama care so people can't gain the system so that the thing that they have is actual health insurance and it covers a standard minimum of care is the idea behind it. nonetheless, republicans have certainly seized on this and people ar
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. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent about the issue, it is a line we cannot cross and we crossed it. >> where is the line, where should we be? >> there is a moral integrity that we have to respect. everybody has a right. you can't sell this idea that we're protecting you against the terrorists as greenwald has. the terrorists are a small group of people. and we have bugged the whole world, put all -- the hay stack is all there, and anything goes. and into the future. and that is what concerns me the most, because even if obama is a reasonable man, what if we did have a terror incident of major proportions, or there was another president that comes in, call it to the right
. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent...
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we told you about reports the nsa was spying on the pope. stephen colbert not surprised. >> there is another new report on the national security agency today, an italian magazine reports that the nsa may have spied on the pope. and some cardinals. sources at the magazine have been told that the nsa eaves dropped on vati itican phone ca before the conclave. i'm a devout catholic, but i believe the nsa must spy on the vatican. they're tapping the direct line to god. and as i pointed out, this guy has a beard, spent a lot of time in the middle east, and i keep hearing he has some plan that for some reason always involves your grandma dying. >> halloween gaft networks the chance to show off their personalities and you might expect david letterman very impressed. >> it's halloween and all your tv show hosts put on the halloween outfits. this is matt lauer today on the "today" show. that's george stephanopoulos dressed as george clooney. next we have hoda and kathie lee. these are adult men and women making a living on network television. and we d
we told you about reports the nsa was spying on the pope. stephen colbert not surprised. >> there is another new report on the national security agency today, an italian magazine reports that the nsa may have spied on the pope. and some cardinals. sources at the magazine have been told that the nsa eaves dropped on vati itican phone ca before the conclave. i'm a devout catholic, but i believe the nsa must spy on the vatican. they're tapping the direct line to god. and as i pointed out,...
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the nsa? >> i suppose again what it does with me and why it makes me very nervous is because i think that we are fragile in so many other ways now. and that we are not standing on the sure footing that the united states has gotten used to. and yet we convince ourselves that we are. and at the same time we are losing friends at a quick pace. so yes, i think we're in a pretty precarious situation now. >> and every time the government shutdown story reemerged on a daily basis, i think i wonder what sean penn thinks of washington coming to a halt, a well-paid halt for the politicians and not for the american people. we'll get the reaction after the break. and also, your reaction to julia roberts, and working with julia roberts, i wish i could do that. see i, i finally got you to smile. i knew i could do that. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and
the nsa? >> i suppose again what it does with me and why it makes me very nervous is because i think that we are fragile in so many other ways now. and that we are not standing on the sure footing that the united states has gotten used to. and yet we convince ourselves that we are. and at the same time we are losing friends at a quick pace. so yes, i think we're in a pretty precarious situation now. >> and every time the government shutdown story reemerged on a daily basis, i think...
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and google and now the nsa is pushing back. plus dr. sanjay gupta was the last journalist to have an exclusive interview with kathleen sebelius. is her message about obama care better today than it was last week when he sat down with her? sanjay standing by to join us live. #%tia[ >>> new developments in the scandal over u.s. government spying. also new allegations the ns after the tapped in to yahoo! and google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.nd google communicati are used by hundreds of millions of people.the tapped in to yaho google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.apped in to yahoo! and g communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people. jim sciutto is working the story for us. the "washington post" reports the nsa infiltrated links to yahoo! and google, servers globally that the agency is using this practice to get around port approved process. you've been investigating. what have you found? >> the story in effect is that they have gone into the communica
and google and now the nsa is pushing back. plus dr. sanjay gupta was the last journalist to have an exclusive interview with kathleen sebelius. is her message about obama care better today than it was last week when he sat down with her? sanjay standing by to join us live. #%tia[ >>> new developments in the scandal over u.s. government spying. also new allegations the ns after the tapped in to yahoo! and google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.nd google...
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tureous though the nsa tracked the conversations of millions of citizens and some leaders. german chancellor angela merkel had her phone tapped as far back as 2002. obama personally apologized to merkel, but there are still questions about whether he knew about the eavesdropping. >> welcome to the white house. >> reporter: when things go wrong president obama often grabs hold of the situation and works to correct it in a big public way. >> nobody is matter than me about the fact that the website is not working as well as it should, which means it's going to get fixed. >> reporter: but this week he seemed overshadowed by the generals and leaders in his cabinet who instead took the heat. >> hold me accountable for the debacle. i'm responsible. >> reporter: kathleen is h sebes endured nearly four house of questions in the white house. >> nothing that has been released has shown that we're trying to do something illegal. >> reporter: and it was a director of national intelligence james clapper and nsa chief general keith alexander fielding the tough questions about surveillance
tureous though the nsa tracked the conversations of millions of citizens and some leaders. german chancellor angela merkel had her phone tapped as far back as 2002. obama personally apologized to merkel, but there are still questions about whether he knew about the eavesdropping. >> welcome to the white house. >> reporter: when things go wrong president obama often grabs hold of the situation and works to correct it in a big public way. >> nobody is matter than me about the...
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. >>> word today that the nsa tapped the phones of not one, but 35 world leaders. >>> and new revelations, what the white house supposedly did and did not know about it. >>> also this hour, chris brown arrested again. accused of punching a fan and charged with assault. and yes, he is still on probation for roughing up rihanna. >>> and they squeezed through a maintenance patch above the shower, made their way along the jail's plumbing and air conditioning system and broke through a concrete wall and walked out right out of an unlocked door. armed and dangerous, still on the run this hour. >>> hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. it's monday, october 28th. welcome to "legal view." you do not need to eavesdrop to know that the -- the allies are sounding off this morning. in just a few moments, the british prime minister is due to face parliament. you know how those sessions can get. this morning the u.s. ambassador to spain was called if for dressing down the spanish foreign minister. the spanish newspaper is reporting that the nsa collect locations durations for 60 million phone calls in
. >>> word today that the nsa tapped the phones of not one, but 35 world leaders. >>> and new revelations, what the white house supposedly did and did not know about it. >>> also this hour, chris brown arrested again. accused of punching a fan and charged with assault. and yes, he is still on probation for roughing up rihanna. >>> and they squeezed through a maintenance patch above the shower, made their way along the jail's plumbing and air conditioning...
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sort of ironic given all this nsa talk. we've got that story. >>> apple i iphone sales were better than expected. but today all the talk is about a buyout. is happening eyeing an american car company? and i didn't just misspeak. >>> and jay z has another problem. why they're demanding that he drop his latest megabucks deal. . (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the two-thousand-fourteen subaru forester. (girl) what? (announcer) built to be there for your family. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management. i'to guard their manhood with trnew depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that's just for guys. now, it's your turn. get my training tips a
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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i want to also ask you about the nsa and the concerns about the nsa becoming a rogue agency. reports today from "the washington post" denied by keith alexander just now, apparently, that the nsa, that our spies are actually unknowingly going into google and yahoo! centers and retrieving data. where does it end? >> well, i have grave concerns about this, andrea. there was a report that i saw that the taps of the phone may have even tapped the pope's phone. we've got to get to the bottom of this. i'll tell you, i have a suspicion about one of the things that's at the root of this. and it is the fact that the authorization for the use of military force passed one week after 9/11 is so broad and open-ended. as you know, the language in that authorization authorized the president to take action against those who committed the 9/11 attacks or their affiliates. that language, or their affiliates, without any limitation in time or geography, has led to a whole series of programs that i think are too open ended. one of the things that i want to explore as we look at correcting these s
i want to also ask you about the nsa and the concerns about the nsa becoming a rogue agency. reports today from "the washington post" denied by keith alexander just now, apparently, that the nsa, that our spies are actually unknowingly going into google and yahoo! centers and retrieving data. where does it end? >> well, i have grave concerns about this, andrea. there was a report that i saw that the taps of the phone may have even tapped the pope's phone. we've got to get to the...
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we have repair work to do and hard questions to ask of the nsa about what's really happening in this program. >> reporter: the very sit comes on the heels after new revelation from a german newspaper which says the nsa listened in on german chancellor merkel's phone calls since 2002 and chief alexander briefed the president on the spying in 2010. the obama administration denies it saying news reports claiming otherwise are not true. but some members of congress are skeptical. >> remember, the nsa works for the president so it's a question did the president want to hear what chancellor merkel was saying because through his national security advisor he knew or should have known. >> reporter: others say the white house has to answer to no one. >> i think the president should stop apologizing. nsa has saved thousands of lives, not just the united states but also france and germany and throughout europe. >> reporter: "the wall street journal" reports that the nsa ended the eavesdropping after a white house review uncovered the operations this summer. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington.
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i agree with him, nsa spying that protects our national security is critical. but he is lumping in this what i would call gratuitous spying on our leaders that could have enormous consequences for our national security. >> what if this is just trust but verify? >> listen, in the end trust but verify comes down to a very simple proposition. they all knew that we're spying. they do it, everybody does it. but the fact of the matter is, is that there's gambling going on upstairs. all of a sudden there's a revelation. it's the damage that was done now, thomas, and the biggest concern that i have is that we really didn't have to be snooping on chancellor merkel's phone conversations to know what's going on in germany. we didn't have to be doing this. this is an nsa that has run out of control at this point. >>> so reform on the rocks. even senator marco rubio admits that efforts to change immigration reform and the law not going so good. the agenda panel will weigh in on that coming up. >>> jay z breaking his silence about his big deal with the department store barne
i agree with him, nsa spying that protects our national security is critical. but he is lumping in this what i would call gratuitous spying on our leaders that could have enormous consequences for our national security. >> what if this is just trust but verify? >> listen, in the end trust but verify comes down to a very simple proposition. they all knew that we're spying. they do it, everybody does it. but the fact of the matter is, is that there's gambling going on upstairs. all of...
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meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european allies safe so this whole notion that we're going to go after each other on what is really legitimate protection of nation state interests i think is disingenuous candidly. >> mike rogers calling it disingenuous, something like that classic scene from "casablanca." >> everybody is to leave here immediately. this cafe is closed until further notice. clear the room at once! >> how can he close me up? >> i'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. >> your winnings, sir. >> thank you very much. >> we'll talk more about this all of this and the fallout throughout the show, but cnn chief national sec
meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european...
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nsa has actually said that. >> so nsa is saying we're responding too much? because i don't remember that statement. >> the information is so ov overencompassing that they can't go through in the way that they have to. so something about the muscular promise that is in place has to be -- >> i don't know. we should google the word hypocrite here. the fact of the matter is you know this stuff is going on. and you know whether it's private or public, it's going on. and then when it creates a dust up, you say this. >> that's the problem. i think he's trying to step away. they know what's going on as a company. >> do you think the government comes in whether or not it has a court order and says we want to spy on this group and all of you, who will fight it? >> i think they're getting court orders and we'll see if the petition google has filed -- >> if you ignore a court order, what happens to you? >> there are a number of things. >> can you go to another judge is what i'm saying. >> under the fisa court, it's a completely different program. all of this information
nsa has actually said that. >> so nsa is saying we're responding too much? because i don't remember that statement. >> the information is so ov overencompassing that they can't go through in the way that they have to. so something about the muscular promise that is in place has to be -- >> i don't know. we should google the word hypocrite here. the fact of the matter is you know this stuff is going on. and you know whether it's private or public, it's going on. and then when...
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so, look, here's the cia, i mean the nsa chief saying these things, the nsa spying on diplomats at the request of ambassadors. what do you say about that? rick? >> i have to agree. there are a lot of am pabassado around the world that really want to know what's happening from the other side the aisle so to speak. so there's a lot of requests that go back to agency personnel. the sip pell fact is the agency personnel is only responding to the policymakers. the politicians and others feel the pressure from those in the field who want the intelligence and they're the ones who are responding. they don't make the rules. if you want to change the rules, lobby congress or get congress, the congressional oversight committees, to be aggressive. >> the challenge came from james caru rosepep, a former u.s. ambassador to romania during the clinton administration, and he now a democratic state senator in maryland. during this exchange between the two, with general alexander, he was pressing the nsa chief to give a, quote, national security justification for the agency's surveillance for combating t
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documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over years. european leaders continue to put pressure on the country to for a new spying deal on allies. chefon, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> let's explain why it is some officials have explained perhaps why the president would not know about this for five years. >> as it was explained to us, this type of surveillance is the type of program or decision that would be executed at the level of the national security agency and the way the protocols are set up at this point, that's sort of where the line of information would stop. there isn't n
documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the spanish government summoned the american ambassador asking for an explanation. >>> this weekend, thousands of protesters marched on capitol hill demanding an end to the government surveillance program at home and abroad. many carried signs praising snowden and thanking him for blowing wistle on the nsa by leaking classified documents. this comes as international outrage builds over the broad scope of the nsa's data gathering over...
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she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it comes to transatlantic friendship and partnership. and to have someone on the other side of the atlantic who is not willing to communicate at the moment when you need to talk to each other. such things can be resolved. someone who is not willing to send someone over to germany to explain what is happening or to paris or to other places but to wait up until the moment german delegation comes to washington are tiny diplomatic steps that would be helpful installed at the right place. >> pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. >> great to
she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it...
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you saw the nsa go away, the syria debacle. people feel threatened about their health care. they want to choose their own health care. you're seeing this in jay carney's behavior. >> we'll go to the white house briefing room after the break about the issue of filing by paper application or over the phone. what's the difference? there are seniors who have left hundreds of dollars of savgs on the table by not choosing the rit medicare d plan. no one could hav left this much money here. whoo-hoo-hoo! yet many seniors whoompare medicare d plans test test talk to your cvs prmacist, ll, test test call, go online, or visit your local store today. >>> once you get on the phone with a trained representative, it usually takes about 25 minutes for an individual to apply for coverage. >> did the president know that the very same problems would be facing consumers when they called on the phone when he said that they could apply in 25 minutes -- >> john, as you know, the answer is yes, as was reported widely at the time. the whole point was to beef up the calling centers to give the ameri
you saw the nsa go away, the syria debacle. people feel threatened about their health care. they want to choose their own health care. you're seeing this in jay carney's behavior. >> we'll go to the white house briefing room after the break about the issue of filing by paper application or over the phone. what's the difference? there are seniors who have left hundreds of dollars of savgs on the table by not choosing the rit medicare d plan. no one could hav left this much money here....
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spain reports the nsa listened in on 60 million phone calls in a single month. in germany, the newspaper records, president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on angela merkel's calls. the nsa quickly denied the report telling cnn general sander did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving murkle. the nsa says the willingness up to now to deny present and future monitoring. >> i can tell you the president can assure the chancellor, the sungs not and will not 3407b tore the conversations of the chancellor. >> reporter: they are coming to the u.s. to challenge their american counterparts, after breaking quote german law on german soil. house chairman rodgers defended the nsa under surveillance on cnn sunday saying it was both well regulated and essential to keeping both americans and europeans safe from terrorism. >> i think the biggest story here, candy, if the united states intelligence services weren't try
spain reports the nsa listened in on 60 million phone calls in a single month. in germany, the newspaper records, president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on angela merkel's calls. the nsa quickly denied the report telling cnn general sander did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving murkle. the nsa says the willingness up to now to...
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right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the president's inbox, top of the inbox for president putin and head of china as well, the other p5 plus 1 partner as well as chancellor merkel. we are focused on what the objective here is stop iran from having a nuclear weapon. we had the last round of p5 plus 1 negotiations during the government shutdown here in washington which didn't make it particularly easy either. indeed because we are so focused on peace and security for the world community, it trumps virtually everything else. >> and what about the syrian situation and iran's involvement in syria rearming the assad regime, aren't those other is
right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the...
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washington guy, the nsa story. it's one of those things that you hear lawmakers will say, you know what, the public actually doesn't want to know a lot of this information. do you buy that? >> no. i think the public does want to know. >> what do they want to know? >> whether we're spying on our friends. you don't do that to friends. >> no justification of it? >> look, there are a lot of reasons that people might think that it's a good idea, but if you're going to have a relationship with a friend, you don't spy on your friends. you're going to also want to know did the president know about this, are they telling the truth. i think those are the things that people want to know. >> the objections we're hearing from capitol hill, i'm not sure it is them trying to respond to the media attention. we're shocked that this happened, made it look like they would not condone something like this and at the same time, they're privately going we understand that sources are -- >> well, you have to remember that congress tends to
washington guy, the nsa story. it's one of those things that you hear lawmakers will say, you know what, the public actually doesn't want to know a lot of this information. do you buy that? >> no. i think the public does want to know. >> what do they want to know? >> whether we're spying on our friends. you don't do that to friends. >> no justification of it? >> look, there are a lot of reasons that people might think that it's a good idea, but if you're going to...
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the nsa says obama didn't know about this. we're supposed to believe he didn't know about the nsa until he heard -- the spying on merkel until he heard about it on the news? fast and furious, journalists being subpoenaed, consulate, irs -- >> no, he's being all inclusive -- >> so here's the point -- but, on the other hand, if they've data mined billions upon billions of phone calls, so anything good that happens, president obama takes credit for. anything that's bad that happens, he says, i didn't know about it, no one told me about it. that is the definition of not incompetence but lack of -- what's the word i'm looking for? >> less memory than a floppy disc. >> why you say -- >> -- like the french today, like obsessive -- >> i've never liked the french -- that aside, germany, particularly france, of all the countries in the world that have nothing to complain about. >> thought you were more obsessed with the chinese. you switched gears. i was watching fox news and i was glued to it. i was watching with shepard smith. you wer
the nsa says obama didn't know about this. we're supposed to believe he didn't know about the nsa until he heard -- the spying on merkel until he heard about it on the news? fast and furious, journalists being subpoenaed, consulate, irs -- >> no, he's being all inclusive -- >> so here's the point -- but, on the other hand, if they've data mined billions upon billions of phone calls, so anything good that happens, president obama takes credit for. anything that's bad that happens, he...
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with the white house and the nsa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. i asked them does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >> if we want to get to the truth of why there was massive -- we have allegations of mass surveillance. >> reporter: by europeans and americans or just americans? >> whoever it was, whatever partnerships there may have been, we want to get to the truth of it. >> that e.u. delegation and a german delegation both went to the white house to talk spying. they talked about how the dialogue can proceed and strengthen our cooperation. the white house putting the best spin on it. the europeans are looking for an agreement that sets clear rules and limits on what allies spy on and what they don't, kate and chris, what really gets them is the spying on leaders of allies. that's something the white house has said it's going to take a look at. >> when you're working in the business of secrets, hard to come to that kind of an agreement, i guess. great to see you. >> remind me, the preside
with the white house and the nsa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. i asked them does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >> if we want to get to the truth of why there was massive -- we have allegations of mass surveillance. >> reporter: by europeans and americans or just americans? >> whoever it was, whatever partnerships there may have been, we want to get to the truth of...
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. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they had, it helps to paint a picture of what they realize was happening. >> at that moment that they're seeing this on the tv, their third roommate comes back and says i just dropped off paul at l.a.x.. and they knew he had just dropped off paul to a shooting. >> absolutely disturbing to hear that, carol. now what we also know is where the shooter is from in the southern new jersey. they got text messages, his family did, his younger brother, his dad saw them apparently and alerted the chief of police in their town. that police officer then reached out to los angeles, they did a welfare
. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they...
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this is nsa memos. that's one part. the second part has to do with the fact the white house is now saying we're not going to do it going forward. you get the sense that they know they are embarrassed by the revelations. they are not necessarily embarrassed by the tactics but embarrassed they got caught. >> take a look at what some of the eu parliamentarians came, axle voss from germany speaking on capitol hill to frank. >> frustration, anger, the feeling no one is controlling the nsa, no one is respecting privacy rights. no one is respecting data protection standouts. therefore we are in a mix of anger and frustration but also trying to keep the relationship alive. >> but they want answers. they said these were frank discussions. mark, you and i have covered foreign policy a long time. this is a very unhappy group of people. to a certain extent there's spying everywhere. we know that. it's a little shock. there's gambling at mr. rick's. the germans want the same special relationship of no spying agreement that we have w
this is nsa memos. that's one part. the second part has to do with the fact the white house is now saying we're not going to do it going forward. you get the sense that they know they are embarrassed by the revelations. they are not necessarily embarrassed by the tactics but embarrassed they got caught. >> take a look at what some of the eu parliamentarians came, axle voss from germany speaking on capitol hill to frank. >> frustration, anger, the feeling no one is controlling the...
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nsa leaker edward snowden is speaking out yet again. this time in a letter said to be written by snowden titled a manifesto for the truth. it was pubbed by a german magazine. morning other things he's calling on the u.s. government to drop all of those espionage charges against him. barbara starr reports. >> reporter: if edward snowden has any thoughts he might be forgiven, the white house says think again. on abc's this week, they were asked if there are conditioned under which president obama would consider clemency. >> none that have been discussed. >> reporter: the chatter about forgiveness has been sparked by a german magazine which published his manifesto for the truth. in which he says he's seen a positive reaction to the disclosure and wants the u.s. to stop treating him like a criminal. he says the people must fight against the suppression about issues of public significance. whoever speaks the truth is not a criminal. his fate is one of the few areas these days where both parties seem to agree. on cbs's "face the nation," the
nsa leaker edward snowden is speaking out yet again. this time in a letter said to be written by snowden titled a manifesto for the truth. it was pubbed by a german magazine. morning other things he's calling on the u.s. government to drop all of those espionage charges against him. barbara starr reports. >> reporter: if edward snowden has any thoughts he might be forgiven, the white house says think again. on abc's this week, they were asked if there are conditioned under which president...
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guest: the nsa is an important agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection of metadata is not over her, but logged. -- not overheard, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. they do not need to know that i was talking to my brother or my aunt on the phone. if they suspect you or they suspect me, they can get a warrant and they can wiretap her phone. they do not need to wiretap every phone in the world. it is mind-boggling to think about the amount of data that is. host: several comments were made by keith alexander and he made the case that what they do helps agencies like the fbi. i want to show you and get your response. [video clip] >> we are only part of the intelligence agency that does that. the fbi is a tremendous partner in the homeland. they do great work. our job is to give them the information we see
guest: the nsa is an important agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection of metadata is not over her, but logged. -- not overheard, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. they do not need to know that i was talking to my brother or my aunt on the phone. if they suspect you or they...
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>> first about nsa collection, it seems increasingly clear if nsa could collect a signal it would. and just add to this ever greater pile of data. analysts couldn't possibly have gone through and made sense of all the signals that they had access to. in terms of spying on the world leaders, the 35 world leaders which is the latest thing that's riled the europeans and people all over the world, it's hard to imagine, if you captured something of interest from angela merkel's cell phone that reference to that wouldn't end up in the president's daily brief. may not say obtained through surveillance of her cell phone but the intelligence would be there otherwise why would you have it? snowden revelations, just keep rolling at the world and at the obama administration. i'm surprised there's not more push back because it's triggered a response by major nations, france, germany, even britain that's been our partner said it will work with the europeans for new rules. we'll come out of this with new rules that the nsa has to live with. somewhat more limited collection of these signals. the q
>> first about nsa collection, it seems increasingly clear if nsa could collect a signal it would. and just add to this ever greater pile of data. analysts couldn't possibly have gone through and made sense of all the signals that they had access to. in terms of spying on the world leaders, the 35 world leaders which is the latest thing that's riled the europeans and people all over the world, it's hard to imagine, if you captured something of interest from angela merkel's cell phone that...